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-- RobertW - 28 Apr 2008
Video Games as Advertisers' Haven (DRAFT) | |
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< | Many believe advertisement bombardment in media will grow to annoy society to a point that evasive measures taken by audiences will end advertising altogether. The truth, however, is that as long as product manufacturers are willing to invest money to get their products in front of new eyes, advertising in media will remain. This is not to say that advertising is needed to have any content at all, but instead, to make the point that there will never e a shortage of content to put these advertising dollars to use. The only thing that will change is the meaning of the advertisement to all parties but the product manufacturer. Product manufacturers of yore concentrated on producing a good product, hoping for endorsement by a content provider that attracted many eyes. The power has now switched to the product manufacturer, as his advertising dollars are valued by any content provider that can get them in order to eventually produce and get those eyes. A more interesting change has happened among consumers for whom the role of the ad is changing from simply a device to inform the consumer of new/useful/ products to consider, to a necessary consequence of receiving content. These changes will solidify the place of advertising in our media. | >
> | Many believe advertisement bombardment in media will grow to a point that ad-evading measures taken by audiences will end advertising altogether. The truth, however, is that as long as product manufacturers are willing to invest money to get products in front of new eyes, advertising in media will remain. (FN1). What will change is the significance of the actual ad to all parties involved -- manufacturer, content provider, and listener. Product manufacturers of yore concentrated on producing a good product, hoping for endorsement by a content provider that attracted many eyes. The product manufacturer is gaining power, however, as his advertising dollars are valued by any content provider that can get them. Content providers are increasingly dependent upon the ad and it’s revenues to produce and capture eyes. For the consumer, the role of the ad is changing from simply a device to inform the consumer of new/useful/ products to consider, to a necessary consequence -- evil or good -- of receiving content. These trends will continue to solidify the place of advertising in our media. | | | | |
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< | A recent victim of intrusive advertising is the video gaming industry, in which a market has developed around ad- and product placement in the games. This industry exemplifies why advertising will not be destroyed. | >
> | The video game industry is an interesting and fairly novel market with a growing dependency on/utilization of ad- and product placement. In any media source, there is a certain annoyance bar that advertisements must surpass before the people stop coming. The bar is especially high in the gaming realm where there is a split in the audience as to whether ads are welcome or simply interruptive. Many welcome advertisements in genres such as sports and racing games, in which an ad-filled environment in the video game (however unfortunately) mirrors that of the real life environment being mimicked. Others are wary that advertisements will grow to interrupt gameplay. Players don't want to have to wait for Lara Croft to finish her Coke before continuing the next mission in Tomb Raider; however, some will love the presence of commercials in their Superbowl game in John Madden Football. The latter exemplifies how advertisers have created a society that provides a positive feedback mechanism for games. | | | | |
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< | Video game advertising is a developing market with an audience that grows by the gamer. In any media source, there is a certain ‘annoyance’ bar that advertisements must surpass before the people stop coming. The bar is especially high in the gaming realm where there is a split in the audience as to whether these ads are welcome or simply interruptive. Many welcome advertisements in genres such as sports and racing games, in which an ad-filled environment in the video game (however unfortunately) mirrors that of the real life environment being mimicked. Others are wary that advertisements will grow to interrupt gameplay. Players don't want to have to wait for Lara Croft to finish her Coke before continuing the next mission in Tomb Raider; however, some will love the presence of commercials in their Superbowl game in John Madden Football. This is a unique market in which our advertisement-filled society provides a positive feedback mechanism for games. | >
> | As in other media, where it all goes will ultimately depend on how the audience, gamers, react, and subsequently how advertisers and content providers re-react. Gamers may react as have internet users, developing softwares or similar mechanisms to block unwanted ads. The video game, however, is to a higher extent a black box to current users than are the computer and the internet. Further, companies such as Microsoft are depending upon the failure of any end-user efforts to evade ads in their games. In May, 2006, Microsoft purchased Massive, Inc., a 60-employee video game advertising company with $7 million in per annum income, for an estimated $200 million. (FN2). Microsoft has gotten in on the ground floor of video game advertising, realizing that product manufacturer ad money is a resource that will never tap out. | | | | |
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< | This situation can lead to either of two circumstances. The first of which involves gamers' reacting as have internet users, developing softwares or similar mechanisms to block unwanted ads. The video game, however, is to a higher extent a black box to current users than are the computer and the internet. This is another example of power switching to content providers and advertisers. Microsoft has invested in the failure of any end-user efforts to evade ads in their games. In May, 2006, Microsoft purchased Massive, Inc., a 60-employee video game advertising company with $7 million in per annum income, for an estimated $200 million. The company has gotten in on the ground floor of video game advertising, realizing that product manufacturer ad money is a resource that will never tap out. | >
> | Microsoft need not worry about user threats to this investment, however. Advertisement bombardment is becoming the status quo. Users will increasingly become inured to such bombardment in any media or other input that they receive. A video game manufacturer's purchasing an advertising company for $200 million likewise indicates that a drop in video game prices is nowhere in site. The status quo includes a lower (if any) user expectation of receiving any benefit as a result of being subjected to ads -- even lower for those who like ads for realism. The NetZero? /RoadRunner business model, as applied broadly, has instead changed the general expectation from "pay less for an ad-filled media" to "pay more to get these ads out of my face." (FN3). | | | | |
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< | A video game manufacturer's purchasing an advertising company for $200 million likewise indicates that a drop in video game advertisements is nowhere in site, which fits perfectly in the status quo because users have become less expectant of any advantage to be gotten from the insertion of ads. Gamers specifically will have either of the two reactions as aforementioned, neither one rebellious or anti-advertising. The Earthlink/PeoplePC/RoadRunner business model has changed consumer expectations to: the business (1) offers service for free; (2) recruits advertising revenue based on the eyes it has; (3) offers users an ad-free service for a price. Consumers will likewise expect no kickback from the ads, but will not be surprised to have to pay more for ad-free versions of the same game.. And in this unique context, video gamers are already paying $60 per game. This was the first year in which EA Sports put advertisements in its Madden football game (game players agree that this was all that changed about the game -- a necessary consequence since EA sports has an exclusive agreement with the NFL for licensing until at least 2011) yet the game outpriced and outsold its' predecessors. Why drop the price?
Some posit that the efforts of advertisers will ultimately fail into an ad-free-content world, when users (internet, video game, TV, etc) get so tired of ads that they either find a complete block or stop using the media altogether. Video game media has the "only game in town" aspect, in the fact that each game is so unique. Players of popular games such as Halo will not stop playing simply because the vehicles don Pontiac Branding, or because loading times are extended to fit GM commercials, especially not where the their life outside of the game is already a constant bombardment of ads. Advertisers and game manufacturers thus have unchecked power to throw ads at gamers. As gamers have no way out, advertisers will do this to the extent that the game is still playable -- an assessment that, as made by the advertisers and revenue-collecting game manufacturers, will probably include slightly more ads than gamers would consider "still playable." Sort of like how certain internet pages are unreadable with
The conclusion of this ordeal will ultimately depend on which side takes the reigns in affecting change. The listeners may stand up in various ways – using technology and other means to dodge advertisements until they are no longer cost effective for the advertiser. To the contrary, advertisers and content providers, dependent upon advertiser income, will do just as they have done in other media -- find new ways to get around these technologies to keep the audience’s eyes on the cash-producing prize. The conclusion will therefore be this constant race. The end of it is us against them. Society’s demand for new content will never decrease, as won’t content-providers’ desire to line their pockets with the perpetual surplusage of advertising dollars. Our coexistence will therefore be that race.
"If they chose to, I'm sure EA could sit back and do nothing," he said. "They dominated the market even when other games existed. Madden has become like a part of pop culture - so EA can do what they want." at http://media.www.diamondbackonline.com/media/storage/paper873/news/2007/08/29/Diversions/Lighting.Details.Gameplay.Madden.2008-2936904.shtml.
Referred to as EA Sports has taken “what was once a static form of revenue with unchanging ads and sponsors into a constantly flowing river of fresh [advertising] content and more money.” The companies use the internet connections on which people network game, to send ads to the system, to be displayed in the game. Presenting the choice “more fun network gaming vs. cutting off my internet and havng more fun with friends in the room and no ads. I can’t have both. More ways to pay the price. Microsoft got $200 million for this project.
Massive acts as a broker between companies that want to get their ads in front of gamers, and game publishers eager to tap new sources of revenue to offset higher development costs for flashy new titles that can cost $20 million or more to make.” At http://www.reuters.com/article/technologyNews/idUSN2421994920070725?pageNumber=1.
What will change?
http://www.joystiq.com/2007/07/26/microsoft-putting-their-ads-into-madden-other-ea-sports-games/
With Microsoft making cash off of every ad in Madden and the other games, we imagine Sony and Nintendo are left with a difficult choice. Do they allow the ads on their console and put a bunch of cash in Microsoft's already considerable war chest? Or do they not allow the ads and walk away with nothing?
If you're a conspiracy theorist, now would be a wonderful time to point out that the news comes almost exactly one week after Microsoft's Peter Moore moved to EA Sports, just in time for their companies to make sweet love and sweeter cash while Sony and Nintendo walk around the field stapling classified ads that they cut out of the newspaper to stadium walls. You know, just saying.
"We would love to do Nintendo and PlayStation? , but they control the platform, they control the ecosystem and they have to decide what to allow or not. It's not something that's in our control," Van Arsdale said.
Comment that this makes it more real
At http://www.joystiq.com/2006/05/05/microsofts-massive-acquisition-now-official/
Move from “need advertisement revenue to get content out,” to advertisements covering and ruining the content that we want to get out.
The consistent race against ads, why both sides' interests will not lead to "no more ads" but instead lead to a consistent race against ads.
- Attack the “advertise to the extreme” business model
- The ads on the internet
- Pay-per-spam blockers
Why isn’t there a market for spamblockers
o Spamblocking technology such as DVR
• Sense that we are doing something wrong in blocking commercials
• Make this part short
• Make the comparison to spam blockers
• Commercials on TV as the norm, vs. the internet commercial as a new push that needs to be stopped
- Why the ad revolution will absolutely fail
o Will I have to buy a new version of Madden, or will the annoyance at Madden reduce sales
o The reason why they can put ads in madden and in certain places on the internet, is because people are so accustomed or reliant upon these things that it will take a lot to stop them
• There is a certain wall that ads must climb before people outright stop coming, buying
• At the same time, does this wall get shorter and shorter or longer and longer with spamblocker technology such as
• Is there going to be reciprocal technology to make us watch ads
• I can walk out of the movie theater, I cannot skip the 15 second ad before every review I read on cnet.com and phonescoop.com
• I understand they have to get their money
• What are the movies doing right that these companies are doing wrong
o Scarcity?
o I don’t even watch TV in real time much because I can save time by watching the same program, without commercials,
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o Laziness
• It’s not a problem
o Product placement as replacing ads.
• The best advertisement is a good product
• Don’t let the worst advertisement turus off of the best product
• Will it reach the point that ads will appear before all youtube clips
• XM Radio vs regular radio. Want it without ads, pay us more then. Why, so the rich can get richer?
• Even internet radio, Pandora, can only skip so many songs per hour
The new commerce involves offering a product for free, with advertisements, waiting until people are sufficiently pissed off for having to watch those ads, and then offering the same product for a price. This is what our commerce has come to
We don’t watch commercial’s any more dude, we have DVR. Our DVR is full. We might need to get a bigger one, that can hold more shows so that we can watch even more shows with even less commercials.
More recently, I was shocked to see advertisements now in video games; specifically, EA Sports’ John Madden Football 2008 (Madden 08). To put things into context, one has to first under stand the common young (24 is almost young) black male’s relationship to the Madden football games. A friend recently told me that black men were programmed to love Madden games. How did he figure? He didn’t quite know, but he didn’t know any black males who did not like Madden or brag about their skills in the game. I have had Madden games dating back to, at latest, 1992. Many others agree that Madden is the one and only football video game. As the years have gone by, I have noticed the addition of advertisements in the game (and other sports games) and have appreciated them for making the game more realistic. I thought this ‘reality factor’ was the purpose for which they were put in the game. Recently, however, I watched friends play the most recent Madden game, and noticed that the ads had become excessive and imposing, interfering with my enjoyment of the game. Apparently there is a huge market for video game advertisement, led by none other than Microsoft, @ massiveincorporated.com.
So the game changes from me playing the game to my playing the game, and their figuring how to make me watch ads. How Massive vows to not put ads in the way of the consumers. This is obviously not for the enjoyment of the consumer, but because the enjoyment of the consumer is what will put dollars in the content provider’s, and subsequently Massive’s pocket. There is nothing stopping EA from now deciding that since there is no more ‘football video game’ market to compete for, it is now OK to insert ads to the extreme that the game is still playable. That limit for the provider will always include slightly more ads than the player’s
- this is a scarcity argument – about when the rest all goes away, it is ok to do what you want
- the rest has not all gone away on the internet
o although, there is no ad-less internet
o there is only one internet
o so in that sense there is only one
o but we have offerings such as spam blockers, and DVR
o changing ads are kind of cool
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Will it progress to interfering with gameplay? They did say the ads were messing up their flow. People playing Skate may fuck up tricks because can’t see the course for the ads. EA sports will then make sure the ads are not in front of the tricks. Will it become a completely ad-crowded environment outside of the tricks?
What will change?
http://www.joystiq.com/2007/07/26/microsoft-putting-their-ads-into-madden-other-ea-sports-games/
With Microsoft making cash off of every ad in Madden and the other games, we imagine Sony and Nintendo are left with a difficult choice. Do they allow the ads on their console and put a bunch of cash in Microsoft's already considerable war chest? Or do they not allow the ads and walk away with nothing?
If you're a conspiracy theorist, now would be a wonderful time to point out that the news comes almost exactly one week after Microsoft's Peter Moore moved to EA Sports, just in time for their companies to make sweet love and sweeter cash while Sony and Nintendo walk around the field stapling classified ads that they cut out of the newspaper to stadium walls. You know, just saying.
The conclusion of this ordeal will ultimately depend on which side takes the reigns in affecting change. The listeners may stand up in various ways – using technology and other means to dodge advertisements until they are no longer cost effective for the advertiser. To the contrary, advertisers and content providers, dependent upon advertiser income, will find new ways to get around these technologies to keep the audience’s eyes on the cash-producing prize. It seems currently that both of these parties have both of these powers. The conclusion may therefore be the race. The end of it is us against them. Society’s demand for new content will never decrease, as won’t content-providers’ need to pay the bills. Our coexistence will therefore be that race.
- this is not to say that there will not be content without ads
- I think this is a better characterization of the problem
o Tie to this better how those two truths make the third possible: one side, one side → the eternal race.
o Talk about a market for spam blockers
o But in any case, costs would drop to zero, so may not be worth mentioning
- The idea that there is one big media, in the sense that there is the content provider, and the listener
o They will align
o Masive will work in yet another industry than video games
o So we will have to change, and figure out some way to block the ads
• Hacks, and such
• Videogames as a media that doesn’t really require such active blocking by the audience.
• The ad is messing up the environment, a small part of the game, instead of impeding the game
• Stil l there
• And sometimes your time is wasted
• Loading – ad
• Am I waiting so long for the loading, or the ad
- "We would love to do Nintendo and PlayStation? , but they control the platform, they control the ecosystem and they have to decide what to allow or not. It's not something that's in our control," Van Arsdale said.
- Comment that this makes it more real
o At http://www.joystiq.com/2006/05/05/microsofts-massive-acquisition-now-official/
o lakersin2025
o May 5th 2006
o 2:14AM
o That's cool. I like to see to pro ads in games because it makes it more real. We are pounded by ads in real life so make it real in games too. I'd rather have a home town team get the revenue instead of the visitors (sony). BTW I'm so pissed the LAKERS just blew the lead and lost in OT. (of topic). Yippy for Halo 3 next w
o Compare the generic name ads for games of yore vs. real ads for real current shit
• It might be kind of hot
• Ideas of ad free games
• Something with zero
• Microsoft paid 200-400 million not to be the best game out, but to get in on the ground floor advertising to gamers.
• This is a situation in which the content was completely fine before the ads, now things are in jeopardy
• Someone suggesting that ads will lower prices of games?
• Yeah, right. DO you think that Microsoft spent 200-400 million to lower prices?
- Advertising as allowing too much content to exist, not “advertising as a necessity to exist”
o Currently, as a content provider, you can exist if you’re kind of good, and willing to put up another company’s ads
o Without ads, you could only exist if you were good
- People acknowledge that madden sucks, EA has bought the right not to have to improve it, and people will still buy it every year at increasing rates. Where is the gap?
o Someone proposd the question about whether it is worth it to get ads out of video games via not buying video games at all.
o http://www.joystiq.com/2006/05/05/microsofts-massive-acquisition-now-official/
o you’ve got mail – the movie – as an aol-centered and directed movie produced by AOL owner Warner Brothers
o I just hope the video game industry is savvy enough to combat it
o Interesting to see how even within the gaming context (even within certain games) they will target owners
• Someone who plays their music loud gets ads for speakers, someone who likes the sound of the car gets ads for louder-type real-car exhaust systems
• Second Life – and ads for things to buy with your second life person in the game
• CastAway? as a commercial for fed ex and Wilson
• How profitable it might be to come up with a movie, starring an object (a volleyball) for instance, and allow companies to compete for that placement
• Happening
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- Money to line the pockets of already wealthy businessmen/women, who have no say, nor concern, over the actual production of the game
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> | Advertisement has become, and will remain, the default. And in this unique context of gaming, audience members are already paying $60 per game. The 2008 version of the Madden game was the first in which EA Sports allowed updateable advertisements, yet the game outpriced and outsold its' predecessors (with users broadly agreeing that the ads were about the only thing updated since the last version). As with any business, the name of the game is the bottom line; why drop the price? (FN4)
Video game media providers also have the advantage of the "only game in town" aspect of each unique game. Players of popular titles such as Halo will not stop playing simply because the vehicles don Pontiac branding, or because loading times are extended to fit GM commercials, especially not where their life outside of the game is already a constant bombardment of ads. (FN5). Advertisers and game manufacturers will thus have increasingly unchecked power to throw ads at gamers. As gamers have no way out, advertisers will do this to the extent that the game is still playable -- an assessment that, as made by the advertisers and revenue-collecting game manufacturers, will probably include slightly more ads than gamers would consider "still playable." Another possible consequence is a market flood of ad friendly games: in other words, more football and reality games in which users welcome advertisements, and less games in which advertisements would be solely interruptive or obvious impediments/annoyances to gameplay. The unfortunate result would be the advertisers directing the content (especially unfortunate and simply weird in gaming).
The conclusion of this ordeal will ultimately depend on which side takes the reigns in affecting change. The listeners may stand up in various ways -- developing technology and other means to dodge advertisements until they are no longer cost effective for the advertiser. To the contrary, content providers, dependent upon advertiser income, may do just as they have done in other media -- find new ways to get around these technologies to keep the audience's eyes on the cash-producing prize. The conclusion will most likely be this constant race. The end of it is audience against content provider and advertiser. Society's demand for new content will never decrease, as won't content-providers' desire to line their pockets with the perpetual surplusage of advertising dollars. Our coexistence will therefore be that race.
FN1: This is not to say that advertising is needed to have any content at all, but instead, to make the point that there will never e a shortage of content to put these advertising dollars to use.
FN2: See also AdverGame? at www.advergame.com; and Unicast at www.unicast.com
FN3: The Earthlink/PeoplePC/NetZero Model: a business (1) offers content for free; (2) recruits advertising revenue based on the eyes it has captured; (3) offers users the same service, without the ads that the service now has, for a price.
FN4: EA Representative Shelby Cox: “EA is committed to providing both great entertainment experiences for gamers and effective advertising solutions for brands and marketers. Massive has proven its ability to deliver relevant ads in a seamless, nondisruptive way that enhances the realism of the game environment.” at http://arstechnica.com/journals/thumbs.ars/2007/07/25/ea-and-microsoft-launch-dynamic-in-game-advertising-system. Committed to providing advertising solutions for brands and marketers, NOT to giving the gamer a break.
FN5: A player of EA Sports’ Fight Night boxing game: “Terrific game. Worth buying, not just renting. 5 stars for the game, 1 off for taking advantage of me as a fan and customer. I should really ding it harder for that, but the game is too fun to let something sort of sleazy take away from it.” Another player: “I would almost pay extra money for some sort of a cheat code / hack to replace all of those ads with blank space. Maybe they'll let me download that from XBox Live in the near future.” From reviews at http://www.amazon.com/Electronic-Arts-15173-Fight-Night/dp/B000CRSBLQ.
Other
- http://www.gamespot.com/news/6148363.html : In-game advertising is clearly poised to grow in the coming years, but there's debate over just how rapid that growth will be. Earlier this month, Massive's own CEO pegged the market at $1.8 billion by the end of the decade, while the managing director of The Wall Street Transcript showed even more enthusiasm in January by projecting the market to reach $4 billion by the end of 2008.
- EA claims that Madden took 20 Million to produce, yet fans everywhere agree that it is the same game as last year with an updated roster. |
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