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GradingProfessors 4 - 15 Feb 2010 - Main.RorySkaggs
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| | a.k.a. Grading Professors So WE Get Better Feedback
Students grade professors through course evaluation forms. Maybe we can use these forms to get better feedback from our professors. (The irony that the feedback we give them is already way more instructive than the feedback we receive is not lost on me.) Anyway, through the evaluation forms we give feedback on many different aspects of the professor's performance, but we don't give feedback on how good their feedback to us is. Maybe if we successfully lobby for a "rate your professor's feedback" box on the evaluation forms, we can begin to establish feedback as an important part of a professor's job. | | | I think the value here is in exactly what you downplayed Rory: future students would have a better idea of what to expect from professors. Any additional knowledge students can have about these mysterious tendencies would be a benefit to them. There is even a possibility that a student who is armed with the knowledge can realize that certain professors need to be pushed much more during the semester in order to give the type of feedback they want. I think to sit back and say that because these professors publish articles we are powerless to change what goes on in our education is lying down. We can certainly have a realistic view of things, but we shouldn't let that deter us from even trying to be lawyers...aka make change using words. These reviews are exactly the type of vehicles that allow us to take action; they are publications of our words to our target audience. If we can't believe we can make change with them, we are in serious trouble as young lawyers.
-- RobLaser - 14 Feb 2010 | |
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@Rob- I think you're confusing the necessity to change a problem with differences regarding how to do it. I also think you are addressing a different problem than Alex did-- my understanding was that Alex was proposing this idea in an effort to change what professors do, not to just let the students know about what happens. And my point is that if we are trying to change what professors do, this seems a rather passive way to do it. As I mentioned, do professors change in response to student evaluations? And more importantly, does administration put any pressure on them to give feedback to us? If we really want to change the system, we have to attack it directly, not just by telling each other what we already know. We need to change how classes, and probably the whole curriculum, are structured. I'm not at all sure how to do that, all I'm saying is adding another box to class evals doesn't seem like the best or most effective way to do it.
Also, I'm not sure how much benefit they would have even for us, especially during first year when we can't pick our classes anyways. Don't we know that we're not going to get feedback just by the nature of law school itself? Until that changes, I'm not sure how much there will be to say. The eval will say 'you take one test and don't get any feedback on it', we will say 'yes I know it's like almost every other class I could have told you that.' So we need to figure out how to change the norm, not just talk about it. But like I said, it also couldn't hurt anything, especially if some professors do change in response to evaluations, so I would support it regardless-- just not as the only way to solve the problem.
-- RorySkaggs - 15 Feb 2010 | | | |
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