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RaceVClass 26 - 11 Apr 2012 - Main.SanjayMurti
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 I realize this is going to be a pretty damn controversial post, but I feel compelled to speak on the subject. I sometimes become concerned that classism becomes too easily conflated with racism in our world.

There's many draws to calling a certain policy racist:

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 I’ll just end by saying that I’m glad you used this forum to start this thread, Kipp, and I really hope you don’t view anything either myself or anyone else has said here as a personal attack. I wish we lived in a country where people felt they could have more conversations like this without getting defensive. This has definitely been a useful discussion for me, and I hope you feel you’ve gotten something from it as well.

-- RumbidzaiMaweni - 09 Apr 2012

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From talking with Kipp and the class discussion earlier today, I still feel like we're on different pages here. I think the following is an accurate summary of what Kipp was trying to get at, but he can obviously hop in and tell me I'm wrong:

(1) There is a distinction between policies that are based on race and based on class.
(2) There is a conflation of the two primarily because of the historical fact of "white supremacy"
(3) Framing and challenging class-based policies as racial clashes of "white vs. all" is counterproductive today because
  (a) it doesn't get to the root of the problem
  (b) it informs white people that they can't be a part of the solution ("alienation")
  (c) it furthers a racial divide

I don't think Kipp was trying to argue that people of color should circumscribe their views so he doesn't feel bad (although, cynically and politically, it may be a valid argument). Kipp is invested in trying to help the poor, but a history of white supremacy means he operates in an arena where the upper class is predominantly white and the lower class is predominantly minority. I don't see why he's not allowed to feel alienated when he's framed as the problem (because of his race) when he's working to help solve it.

-- SanjayMurti - 11 Apr 2012


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